This is a review of a designer for WordPress, E.Webscapes Design Studio. They did the current PhoneNews.com look and feel which I hired them to do.
E.Webscapes’s lead designer wrote the book on WordPress… literally. But, that’s not the main reason that we chose them over at PhoneNews.com, we quoted several designers on their past work, and price range.
Upon the completion of the quote, I was assigned (sub-contracted, really) to Leanne, one of their staff members. I was quoted a rather long period of time to completion, 25 to 30 business days. After submitting the details, I was told it would be a couple of weeks to come back with a draft.
Couple of weeks came and went. I touched base with Leanne to see what was happening, and was told… nothing had happened. Leanne had an illness in the family, and had not worked on my project. Now, at this point, I had hoped that she would have re-assigned the project to someone else… but since it was basically a sub-contracting, I didn’t see this as happening. Leanne assured me that things would be back on track, and by weeks end we had the first draft.
The first draft, I have to say, was awful. It was terrible. I could have done a better design… and I still can’t do more than Paint-level work in Photoshop. Yeah, it was that bad. Every single staff member on PhoneNews.com independently rejected it. I emailed back and forth Leanne, and made a battery of specific goals and changes for a second (completely new draft).
A week later, we had the new draft. It too, had several issues, some things in the draft simply weren’t even things you would want on a web site… and other hallmarks of a web site design were absent. A week-and-a-half later though, we had resolved those and got to coding.
Now, I don’t say this to attack E.Webscapes, I do so to point out the importance of the drafting phase. You need to, with all designers, hammer out the specifics long in advance. By this point, we had a draft that we were happy with.
Then came the coding. Now, because of the delays, we’re now pushing up against the timeframe to deploy the new site. Starting the re-launch of PhoneNews.com had to happen within the first week of January… that was the only time I could temporarily abort real life for a few days to do the job right. If we missed that window, it couldn’t have happened until June. We let Leanne know this long in advance, but things were pushing much closer to the pre-set deadlines than I had liked.
So, we had to deploy using the theme that I’m currently using on this blog. However, Leanne came through within 48 hours with a beta version of the template. That really helped us deploy since we were fine with rolling with the punches… as long as PhoneNews.com didn’t look like a mess.
Then came the bug squashing phase. This was supposed to take a week… it wound up taking the better part of a month. Every web browser had problems with the code at some point (Opera, Firefox, Safari, IE 6 and IE 7). This is where I’d like to point out one key term in the standard E.Webscapes contract. At some point, the designer declares the template final. Then, you have 72 hours to point out all the bugs in the template, and have them fixed… yeah, in three days.
Bear in mind, we had weeks of bug testing just to get the site to render properly on all five main browsers. So, those 72 hours were not a fun period… we were pointing out issues, getting new code, testing it, finding more bugs caused by the fixes, and submitting changes. After the 72 hours were done… I realized “hey, all the bugs we even noted aren’t fixed… and the fixes created new bugs!”
At first, Leanne wanted to start quoting me rates to fix the bugs. I shut that notion down quickly. But, she still had to seek approval from her boss to finish the job, since it had stretched beyond the 72 hour window.
Typically, web designers assure that their templates will be bug-free with the version of the software they’re targeting. For example, we’re running WordPress 2.3.x on PhoneNews.com. Typically, a designer will assure the code is bug free for WordPress 2.3, and when WordPress upgrades (say, to 2.5, the next version), we would be quoted a fee to do the upgrade.
E.Webscapes however does not do this. They don’t assure a bug-free design when everything’s done, the onus is on you to find all the bugs within 72 hours. This is why I cannot reccomend E.Webscapes unless you negotiate this change out of the agreement. That’s not to say by any means that the quality of the finished work they did is bad in any way… it’s very good. But, they’re already a premium WordPress design company.
They charge a high price for quality work. With no long-term comittments that the work they did is actually of a high quality (as in, bug-free), your users will probably wind up reporting bugs with the design a week after you deployed it.
Personally, I wanted to avoid deploying the design before it was finished. Now, I’m glad I did… users were the ones that came forward with many of the bugs. I doubt we would have found all of them within 72 hours, even with user feedback in that small of a window.
In fact, we did find a bug that was after the 72 hour window. We asked for Leanne to “pause the loop” at one point, a technique I actually discovered in Lisa’s book (which, like many For Dummies books, actually has lots of good information even for savvy users). However, Leanne did not implement the code properly. The loop was paused after every post, we wanted it to only pause after a single post (so we can inject content in-between, say, the second and third article). I can fix it myself… but this blasted 72 hour approval window really strains relations.
So, should you use E.Webscapes? I would certainly recommend getting them in your quote list for a new WordPress design. However, when you go into the quote, one of your first qualifications for the job should be that they commit to bug-fixing support at least on the version of WordPress that you deploy on. If that raises the cost of the quote, fine… take that into consideration when comparing their work to the other designers that you are quoting.
I had a terrible experience with E. Webscapes. I received a quote, paid up-front for the job, then never heard back. After a couple of increasingly urgent e-mails to Lisa, she E-mailed back telling me she’s refunding fees on four projects she took on, but can’t complete. My project was one of the four. That left me 8 weeks behind on an extremely urgent project (my current host is threatening to pull the plug because we outgrew them!) Now I have to pay for expedited service; our $100 job will now cost me $400.
I do not reccomend E. Webscapes or Lisa Sabin-Wilson. No professional would ever leave a client hanging like that. She should have at least found another company to take on the project, rather than offering an empty apology and a refund.
Terrible service- I heard nothing but excuses for their poor service.
Chris,
I am so terribly disappointed to read this. I was left with the impression that we had a really great working relationship and that after I completed your design you were very pleased and even told me it was great.
I worked within the time frame and delivered your project according to your own specs. Not having access to tweak the code live on your site, I had to work within the limitations you set for me – I had nothing to work with but mocked in text and areas I was coding based on your description alone. I do realize that certain browsers were a bit buggy at first, but resolved all of those issues, at least that’s what you indicated and what I viewed when I did my cross-browser check. Again, not having the actual live site to complete the installation and do my own thorough run down of the code was not advantageous to either of us.
Not one of my projects has ever gone beyond deadline because of my own commitments, at least you certainly seemed very understanding when my mother was having open heart surgery and I was out of town for a few days.
I am very sorry that you are disappointed with the service that I provided you and wish you had told me you needed more time to review the last tweaked zip file I provided as I most certainly would have left your project open an extended time if you indicated it was necessary.
I absolutely pride myself on customer satisfaction and care and am positively dumbfounded that you are the least bit dissatisfied with the work I provided.
Leanne, perhaps you aren’t familiar with my work. If you want a flawless review, you won’t find one here. I’ve never written a review that says “everything’s perfect” and I don’t plan to start here. If you think my review was scathing, or negative… well, I suggest you read some reviews over on PhoneNews.com to see what that really is.
The work was satisfactory. It took longer than expected (25-30 business days was the estimate, it took closer to 40 when all ways said and done… not counting holidays either), however, most of my complaints were in regard to E.Webscapes policies, not your work.
I noted how you worked with us to get the job completed on time by supplying beta copies. I really think you’re mixing complaints about the process with complaints about your work.
If the final product for PhoneNews.com wasn’t satisfactory, we wouldn’t have put it online.
If you re-read the review, you’ll see that I said that I would recommend E.Webscapes, but only if they removed their 72-hour window for bug fixing.
The problems in regard to working out the final approval issues stemmed from that requirement imposed by your employer. You yourself said you would have to charge an hourly rate to fix the remaining issues until I noted when we brought up the issues initially.